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Sunday, August 2, 2015

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Ïðàâèëà ëèñòà (íîâàÿ ðåäàêöèÿ)
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Íàñòîÿùèì äîêóìåíòîì óñòàíàâëèâàþòñÿ ïðàâèëà ðàáîòû ïî÷òîâîãî ëèñòà ðàññûëêè "radiotalk-ru".

Ëèñò ðàññûëêè radiotalk-ru ïîñâÿùåí îáñóæäåíèþ âîïðîñîâ, ñâÿçàííûõ ñ ðàäèîóñòðîéñòâàìè, ýëåêòðîííûìè ñèñòåìàìè, èõ êîìïîíåíòàìè è áûòîâîé òåõíèêîé.

Öåëüþ ñîçäàíèÿ ëèñòà ïîñëóæèëà âîçìîæíîñòü â ïîëó÷åíèè èíôîðìàöèè ïîñðåäñòâîì ïðèåìà è îòïðàâêè ýëåêòðîííûõ ñîîáùåíèé ïîëüçîâàòåëÿìè - ïîäïèñ÷èêàìè ëèñòà.

Âñå èçìåíåíèÿ â ïîñëåäóþùèõ â îòíîøåíèè ê òåêóùåé ðåäàêöèè ïðàâèë ïîìå÷àþòñÿ çíàêîì "~".

Îáùèå ïîëîæåíèÿ
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Íàèìåíîâàíèå ëèñòà - radiotalk-ru, ÿçûê ðàññûëêè - ðóññêèé, Êîäèðîâêà - KOI8-r (MS-DOS), Windows.
 ðàññûëêå äîïóñêàþòñÿ ïèñüìà è ñîîáùåíèÿ ñ ïðèêðåïëåííûìè ôàéëàìè (àòòà÷è) ðàçìåðîì íå áîëåå 10êá (ïðèìåðíî 2-3 ìàøèíîïèñíûõ ëèñòà) è 20êá ñîîòâåòñòâåííî.

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Íàñòðîéêàìè ðàññûëêè â ïîëå "Òåìà" (Subject:) ñîîáùåíèé ïîìèìî óñòàíîâëåííîãî àâòîðîì ïèñüìà çàãîëîâêà âñòàâëÿåòñÿ àáðåâèàòóðà "[rt]". Ýòè ñèìâîëû ìîãóò ñëóæèòü êðèòåðèåì äëÿ ñîðòèðîâêè ñîîáùåíèé â Âàøåé ïî÷òîâîé ïðîãðàììå.
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Ïîðÿäîê îòïðàâêè ñîîáùåíèé
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Ëþáîå ñîîáùåíèå â ëèñò ðàññûëêè ìîæåò áûòü îòïðàâëåíî íà àäðåñ: e-mail:radiotalk-ru@onelist.com

 ñëó÷àå îòâåòà íà êàêîå-ëèáî ïèñüìî íåîáõîäèìî èñïîëüçîâàòü êîìàíäó Reply (Îòâåòèòü) Âàøåé ïî÷òîâîé ïðîãðàììû. Ïðè ýòîì â ïîëå To: (Êîìó:) áóäåò óêàçàí àäðåñ ëèñòà, à òåêñò ñîîáùåíèÿ (â çàâèñèìîñòè îò íàñòðîåê Âàøåé ïî÷òîâîé ïðîãðàììû) áóäåò ñîäåðæàòü ñòðîêè ïðåäûäóùåãî ïèñüìà, â íà÷àëå êîòîðûõ áóäåò ïîìåùåí çíàê "> ". Îòâå÷àÿ, Âû ìîæåòå îñòàâèòü ÷àñòü ýòèõ ñòðîê äëÿ ëó÷øåãî ïîíèìàíèÿ îòâåòíîãî ñîîáùåíèÿ.

Îòïðàâêó îòâåòà òîëüêî àâòîðó âîïðîñà (äèðåêòîì) ìîæíî îñóùåñòâèòü êîìàíäîé Reply All (Îòâåòèòü âñåì), óäàëèâ èç ñòðîêè To: (Êîìó:) áëàíêà ñîîáùåíèÿ àäðåñ ëèñòà ðàññûëêè.

ÏÐÅÄÏÎ×ÒÈÒÅËÜÍÎ ÎÒÂÅ×ÀÒÜ Â ËÈÑÒ.

Ê èñêëþ÷åíèÿì îòíîñÿòñÿ ïèñüìà, ñîäåðæàùèå ôðàçû òèïà "È ìíå", "Îòïðàâüòå íà òàêîé-òî àäðåñ", à òàêæå çàïðîøåííûå îäíèì èç ïîäïèñ÷èêîâ ôàéëû, ïðîãðàììû, ñõåìû è ò.ä.

Åñëè æå Âû ñî÷òåòå íåîáõîäèìûì òî, ÷òî áîëüøèíñòâó ïîäïèñ÷èêîâ äàííûé ôàéë îêàæåòñÿ ïîëåçíûì, òî ~ìîæåòå îòïðàâèòü~ â ëèñò, íî ó÷òèòå, ÷òî ðàçìåð ïèñüìà íå äîëæåí ïðåâûøàòü óñòàíîâëåííûõ ëèìèòîâ.

 ñëó÷àå îòâåòà íà êàêîå-ëèáî èç ïèñåì ÍÅÎÁÕÎÄÈÌÎ ÓÄÀËÈÒÜ ðåêëàìíûå ðåêâèçèòû ñåðâåðà onelist, íàõîäÿùèåñÿ â êîíöå ñîîáùåíèÿ.

Ïîäïèñêà
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Äëÿ ïîäïèñêè íà ëèñò ðàññûëêè ìîæíî âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ñëåäóþùèìè ñïîñîáàìè:
à) îòïðàâèòü ïóñòîå ïèñüìî ïî àäðåñó e-mail:radiotalk-ru-subscribe@onelist.com
á) ñ ïîìîùüþ Âàøåãî áðàóçåðà îòêðûòü ñòðàíèöó Èíòåðíåòà;
http://www.onelist.com/register?referer=%2Fsubscribe%2Fradiotalk-ru è ïðîèçâåñòè ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå îïåðàöèè;
â) îòïðàâèòü ñîîáùåíèå ìîäåðàòîðó ëèñòà e-mail:radiotalk-ru-owner@onelist.com ñ òåêñòîì î æåëàíèè ïîäïèñàòüñÿ íà ýòîò ëèñò ðàññûëêè.

Ïåðâûé èç óêàçàííûõ ñïîñîáîâ ïîäïèñêè - íàèáîëåå áûñòðûé è óäîáíûé.

Ïðè ðåãèñòðàöèè ïî÷òîé ïîñëå ïîëó÷åíèÿ ïèñüìà ñ ñåðâåðà onelist íåîáõîäèìî êîìàíäîé Reply (Îòïðàâèòü) îòâåòèòü íà ïîñòóïèâøèé çàïðîñ î ïîäòâåðæäåíèè ïîäïèñêè.

Îòêàç îò ïîäïèñêè
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Äëÿ îòêàçà îò ïîäïèñêè ìîæíî:
à) îòïðàâèòü ïóñòîå ïèñüìî ïî àäðåñó e-mail:radiotalk-ru-unsubscribe@onelist.com;
á) îòêðûòü ñòðàíèöó ñåðâåðà http://www.onelist.com/ è, çàðåãèñòðèðîâàâøèñü íà íåì, èçìåíèòü ïàðàìåòðû ñâîåãî ïðîôèëÿ.
â) ñîîáùèòü ìîäåðàòîðó ëèñòà ïî àäðåñó e-mail:radiotalk-ru-owner@onelist.com î æåëàíèè îòïèñàòüñÿ.

Àíàëîãè÷íî êàê è ïðè ïîäïèñêå, äëÿ ïîäòâåðæäåíèÿ îòêàçà îò ðàññûëêè íåîáõîäèìî îòâåòèòü íà ïîñòóïèâøåå ñ ñåðâåðà ñîîáùåíèå.

Äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ
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Àðõèâ ëèñòà õðàíèòñÿ ïî àäðåñó http://www.onelist.com/messages/radiotalk-ru
 íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò âîïðîñ î ñîáñòâåííîé Èíòåðíåò-ñòðàíèöå ëèñòà îñòàåòñÿ îòêðûòûì, à ïîêà ïîäðîáíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü ñ ñåðâåðà http://www.onelist.com

Óïðàâëåíèå ðàáîòîé ëèñòà
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Ðàáîòîé ðàññûëêè óïðàâëÿþò ìîäåðàòîð ëèñòà è åãî çàìåñòèòåëü.
Îíè âïðàâå óñòàíàâëèâàòü ïðàâèëà ëèñòà, èçìåíÿòü ñîñòàâ ó÷àñòíèêîâ, à òàêæå îñóùåñòâëÿòü äðóãèå îïåðàöèè ïî óïðàâëåíèþ ðàáîòîé ðàññûëêè.

Åñëè ó Âàñ åñòü êàêèå-ëèáî çàìå÷àíèÿ ïî ðàáîòå ëèñòà, ðàñøèðåíèþ åãî ôóíêöèé, èçìåíåíèþ ïðàâèë è ò.ä., òî Âû ìîæåòå îòïðàâèòü ïèñüìî ïî àäðåñó: e-mail:radiotalk-ru-owner@onelist.com.

Ïèñüìà, ïðèøåäøèå îò ìîäåðàòîðà è â ïîëå subject (òåìà) êîòîðûõ óêàçàíà ôðàçà [from owner], ñîäåðæàò èíôîðìàöèþ äëÿ âñåõ è íå ïîäëåæàò îáñóæäåíèþ â ëèñòå. Äëÿ îáñóæäåíèÿ òàêèõ ïèñåì ïîëüçóéòåñü àäðåñîì, óêàçàííûì âûøå.

 ñëó÷àå, êîãäà Âû íå ìîæåòå ïî êàêèì-ëèáî ïðè÷èíàì îòïðàâèòü ïèñüìî â ëèñò èëè ìîäåðàòîðó, òî ìîæåòå ñîîáùèòü îá ýòîì íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ïî àäðåñó e-mail:pav@ntgres.pssr.ru. Îòâåò ñ ýòîãî àäðåñà áóäåò äàí â íàèáîëåå êðàò÷àéøèé ñðîê.

×òî ðàçðåøàåòñÿ
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1. Çàäàâàòü âîïðîñû, êàñàþùèõñÿ ðàäèîóñòðîéñòâ, ýëåêòðîííûõ ñèñòåì, áûòîâîé òåõíèêè, è, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, îòâå÷àòü íà íèõ êîððåêòíî è äîñòîâåðíî.
2. Ñîîáùàòü î ðåçóëüòàòàõ ðåøåíèÿ ïðîáëåìû è ïðîâåäåííûõ ýêñïåðèìåòîâ è ðàáîò, ñâÿçàííûõ ñ ðàíåå ïîñòàâëåííûì âîïðîñîì.
3. Ðåêîìåíäîâàòü òå èëè èíûå îïåðàöèè ñ öåëüþ óòî÷íåíèÿ ïðè÷èí âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ âîïðîñà.  ÷àñòíîñòè, ïðè ïîèñêå íåèñïðàâíîñòè íåîáõîäèìî çíàòü êàêèå-ëèáî ïàðàìåòðû ðàáîòû ñõåìû, ìåñòî ðàñïîëîæåíèÿ äåôåêòà è ò.ä. Äëÿ âûÿñíåíèÿ ýòîãî ìîæåò âîçíèêíóòü ðÿä âñòðå÷íûõ âîïðîñîâ, ÷òî äîïóñòèìî â ëèñòå.
4. Ïðèâîäèòü ôðàãìåíòû ñõåì â âèäå ïðèêðåïëåííîãî ôàéëà. Äîïóñòèìûå ðàñøèðåíèÿ ôàéëîâ-ðèñóíêîâ - gif èëè jpg, ëèáî ñæàòûé àðõèâàòîðàìè (zip, rar) ðèñóíîê ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûõ ôîðìàòîâ. Ðàçìåð àòòà÷à íå äîëæåí ïðåâûøàòü óñòàíîâëåííûé âûøå ëèìèò.
 ñëó÷àå, êîãäà ðàçìåð ïðèêðåïëåííîãî ôàéëà âåëèê, îòïðàâêó íåîáõîäèìî îñóùåñòâëÿòü êëèåíòàì íàïðÿìóþ - äèðåêòîì. Ïîðÿäîê îòïðàâêè òàêèõ ñîîáùåíèé ñìîòðè â ðàçäåëå "Ïîðÿäîê îòïðàâêè ñîîáùåíèé".
5. Ñîîáùàòü î íîâûõ ïðèíöèïèàëüíûõ ðåøåíèÿõ, èñïðàâëåíèÿõ â ðàíåå îáñóæäàâøèõñÿ òåìàõ, ëè÷íûõ ðàçðàáîòêàõ â îáëàñòè ðàäèîýëåêòðîíèêè, òàêæå î íîâèíêàõ áûòîâîé è êîìïüþòåðíîé òåõíèêè.
6. Ðåêîìåíäîâàòü ïðîãðàììû äëÿ ðàáîòû ñî ñõåìàìè, èõ ñîçäàíèåì è ðàñ÷åòîì.
7. Óêàçûâàòü èñòî÷íèê èíôîðìàöèè ïðè îòâåòå íà âîïðîñ èëè öèòèðîâàíèè äðóãèõ ïèñåì, êîíôåðåíöèé è ñàéòîâ.
8. Ïîìåùàòü ïîëåçíûå ññûëêè.

Çàïðåùàåòñÿ
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1. Ïðåâûøàòü ðàçìåðû ïèñåì è ïðèêðåïëåííûõ ôàéëîâ, óñòàíîâëåííûõ äàííûìè ïðàâèëàìè.
2. Îñêîðáëÿþùå âûðàæàòü ñâîè ïðåâîñõîäñòâà â çíàíèÿõ òåîðèè è ïðàêòèêè ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ äðóãèìè ó÷àñòíèêàìè ëèñòà. Âñå, ÷òî Âû ìîæåòå - ýòî àêòèâíî ó÷àñòâîâàòü â ðàññûëêå, çàäàâàòü êîððåêòíûå âîïðîñû ëèáî äàâàòü ïîëåçíûå ñîâåòû.
3. Ïîçâîëÿòü âûñêàçûâàíèÿ, íåîäíîçíà÷íî âûðàæàþùèå ìûñëü, âêëþ÷àÿ ôðàçû òèïà "÷èòàé èíñòðóêöèþ", "ïîèùè ñàì".
4. Äàâàòü îòâåòû, íå èìåþùèå íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ òåìîé âîïðîñà.
5. Íå êîììåíòèðîâàòü, íà Âàø âçãëÿä, î÷åâèäíûå âåùè. Ïèøèòå êîíêðåòíî, ÷òî íóæíî ñäåëàòü, èëè ÷òî Âû õîòèòå ýòèì ñêàçàòü.
6. Ðàçâèâàòü òåìû, íå îòíîñÿùèåñÿ ê ðàññûëêå.
7. Îáñóæäàòü ïðàâèëà, äåéñòâèÿ ìîäåðàòîðà è äð., åñëè ýòî íå îãîâîðåíî ìîäåðàòîðîì îòäåëüíî.
8. Ðàññûëàòü ñîîáùåíèÿ è ðåêëàìèðîâàòü íå îòíîñÿùèåñÿ ê òåìå ðàññûëêè ïðîãðàììû, äîêóìåíòû è äðóãèå ñðåäñòâà.

Êàòåãîðè÷åñêè çàïðåùåíî
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1. ßâíî èëè íåÿâíî îñêîðáëÿòü ó÷àñòíèêîâ ëèñòà.
2. Ïîñòàâëÿòü çàâåäîìî íåâåðíóþ, ëæèâóþ èíôîðìàöèþ.
3. Ïîñûëàòü â ëèñò àòòà÷è, ðàçìåðîì áîëåå 50 êÁ.
4. Óñòàíàâëèâàòü êàêèå-ëèáî óñëîâèÿ, ïðàâèëà ìèíóÿ ìíåíèå ìîäåðàòîðà.

Ïðîñüáû
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1. ×àñòî èñòèííûå çíàòîêè òåìàòèêè ëèñòà íåäîñòàòî÷íî îñâåäåìëåíû î ñóùåñòâîâàíèè ïîäîáíûõ ëèñòîâ è êîíôåðåíöèé è, íåðåäêî, ïðîñòî íå èìåþò äîñòóïà â Èíåò. Åñëè Âû çíàåòå òàêèõ ëþäåé, òî, ïîæàëóéñòà, ïîñòàðàéòåñü ïî âîçìîæíîñòè ïîäêëþ÷èòü èõ ê ýòîé ðàññûëêå. Ýòî ñäåëàíî íå ñ öåëüþ íàâÿçûâàíèÿ ïîïóëÿðíîñòè äàííîãî ëèñòà, à äëÿ ðàñøèðåíèÿ êðóãà ñïåöèàëèñòîâ. Õîòÿ îäíî îò äðóãîãî íåîòäåëèìî ;-).
2. Ïðè îòâåòå íà ïèñüìî óäàëÿéòå èçëèøíþþ èíôîðìàöèþ (overquoting), ðåêëàìó ñåðâåðà OneList.com, ïîäïèñè ïðåäûäóùèõ àâòîðîâ.
3. Â îäíîì ïèñüìå íå çàäàâàéòå íåñêîëüêî âîïðîñîâ, èìåþùèõ îòíîøåíèå ê ðàçíûì óñòðîéñòâàì, òåìàì. Ëó÷øå ñäåëàòü ýòî, îòïðàâèâ ïèñüìà ïî îòäåëüíîñòè.
4. Ïåðåä Âàøåé ïîäïèñüþ â êîíöå ïèñüìà ïîñòàâüòå äâà òèðå è ïðîáåë ("-- "), ÷òî ïîçâîëèò ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ïîïóëÿðíîé ïî÷òîâîé ïðîãðàììû TheBat èçáåæàòü ñïåöèàëüíîãî óäàëåíèÿ ïîäïèñè è ðåêëàìû ñåðâåðà ïðè îòâåòå íà Âàøå ñîîáùåíèå.
5. Îòâå÷àÿ íà ïèñüìî, â êîòîðîì ñîõðàíÿþòñÿ ôðàãìåíòû ïðåäûäóùåãî ñîîáùåíèÿ, îòäåëÿéòå ñâîé òåêñò îò ñòàðîãî ïðîáåëüíûìè ñòðîêàìè. Ýòî îáëåã÷èò ÷òåíèå ïèñüìà åãî ïîëó÷àòåëÿìè.
6. Ïîäïèñ÷èêàì ëèñòà ïî êîìïüþòåðíîìó æåëåçó. Âîïðîñû, ñâÿçàííûå ñ êîìïüþòåðíûìè óñòðîéñòâàìè, îòïðàâëÿéòå â ëèñò hardtalk@egroups.com ëèáî â îáà ëèñòà. Ýòî ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ïî ïðîñüáå ïîëüçîâàòåëåé óêàçàííîãî ëèñòà.

Ïîñëåäñòâèÿ íàðóøåíèÿ ïðàâèë
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 ñëó÷àå çëîóïîòðåáëåíèÿ óñòàíîâëåííûìè ïðàâèëàìè ïîäïèñ÷èê ïðåäâàðèòåëüíî áóäåò îïîâåùåí îá ýòîì, è åñëè æå íå áóäåò äîñòèãíóò äåéñòâåííûé ýôôåêò, òî àäðåñ ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ áóäåò èñêëþ÷åí èç ãðóïïû ðàññûëêè.

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Íàñòîÿùèìè ïðàâèëàìè íå ñòàâèëàñü öåëü êîãî-ëèáî îãðàíè÷èòü èëè óñòàíîâèòü íåïðåîäîëèìûå ïðåïÿòñòâèÿ. Óñëîâèÿ, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ïðîñòû è íå òðåáóþò çàóðÿäíûõ ñïîñîáíîñòåé ïîäïèñ÷èêîâ.
Åñëè Âû ñ ÷åì-òî êðàéíå íå ñîãëàñíû (èëè ïðîñòî íå ñîãëàñíû ;-)) ïðîñüáà ïèñàòü ìîäåðàòîðó.

Óäà÷è âñåì è ìåíüøå íåæåëàòåëüíîãî òðàôèêà.

Ìîäåðàòîð ëèñòà Àíäðåé Ïðîñâèðÿêîâ (Prosvirjakov A.V.).

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